Why I wouldn't be like Standish Voice's Paul Ogden

So I have written about Standish Voice and the founder, Paul Ogden, of this political biased and motivated group under the disguise of a residents group before. Here is a link to that blog post here. An interesting read.

However, yet again Paul Ogden hides behind his little keyboard and behind Standish Voice's name. He does this to attack me personally and probably in the hope that I do the same to him from Standish View Matter name and site. This is what I will not do! I have the cahoonas to use my name. 

With Standish Views Matter (SVM) I will not allow that to be used like Paul Ogden does with Standish Voice. To me SVM is more important than that to me. Unlike Paul Ogden who only cares about himself.

So Paul Ogden, under Standish Voice, has allowed harassment to me and my family. Greater Manchester Police (GMP) even asked me to do a joint statement after they where using the site to encourage others to attack my family, my home and me. GMP wanted the criminality to stop and thought this was a good way. Paul Ogden refused GMP's request and continued to allow it. You have to ask "I wonder why/" I think we all know the reason for that. 

Paul Ogden has allowed highly libellous lies to be put out against me on his little page and than hid. I am putting this out under my own name and not the Standish Views Matter name. I do this as I say SVM and the issue of Kilhey Court is too important to the residents of Standish, the community and me. 

Paul Ogden should stop using Standish voice for his own little games and gains. But then again that was why he came up with it to help homself!

Labour try to stop Standish residents having their say

On Friday 18 August 2023 it was reported in the local media that the luxuries 4 Star hotel called Kilhey Court in Standish was to close with the lose of jobs to locals and that the hotel would be closing soon. The reason was to house economic migrants.

Local residents are up in arms about this for a number of reasons. One, there is already a loss of a hotel in the village for the same reason. This would be the last hotel that the community could use. Weddings and school proms were held there. All gone now! 

This Labour controlled Council blame it on the Government and say there is nothing they can do. Wrong! Recently both Chorley and Bolton councils had hotels in their respected areas being used for the same reason, inc the well known Park Hall hotel. Both councils entered into discussion with the Government over the matter and both Chorley and Bolton got the Government to move the migrants. So why can this Labour controlled Wigan Council not do the same? Or do they secretly like the idea but just want to try and blame the Government? Maybe they want them here so they can blame the government so more people will vote for them. 

But the residents of Standish have a right too. It is what is right and fair. On the economic migrants side of things there is no support network here for them, so using the hotel and area would be wrong for them.

Local residents are losing jobs because of it. How will they pay their rent or mortgages when economic migrants are being housed in a luxuries 4 star hotel down the road? Is that right and fair? Why are they not housed in this kind of facility? Why are tenants complaining of the state of some of the Council housing issues but they have to put up with it?

The gym will close, so that will put added pressure on other local gyms. People in the community like visiting Worhington Lakes but given what we know what has, and is happening at the Britannia Hotel, just 2.5 miles away, men will congregate there and this will put locals using the local amenities.

The hotel is used for school proms and weddings and these will stop. Where does Wigan Council expect locals to go now?

There have been a number of safety issues with these migrants men harassing high school females and this has been reported in the media and Greater Manchester Police. So by increasing the numbers of these people in the village heightens that risk. Why should locals put up with that risk? Is there any added police to protect our youngsters? No!

I got a call earlier informing me from one of my sources in the Labour camp saying Labour are going mad with the petition and how fast it is growing and they were trying to get it taken down on racists concerns, which it was not. Then a couple of hours later sure enough, as my source told me, the petition was taken down by the service provider. I have made contact with them and i will see if we can sort it out. But on the basis it may not we will not let this Labour controlled council stop you from having your say. 

So what is plan B

So, if we are not going to be silenced then what will we do? Go old school! I am working on paper petition sheets and we will collect them in the centre of Standish, we will go door to door and we will ask residents that want to help to get neighbours signatures on the sheets as well. Whether that is on their street or estate. So if you want to help email garethfairhurst@gmail.com and in the title put help the petition.

It is worth telling you that none of the local Cllrs had signed the petition when I checked before it went down, nor the Labour leader of this Council. If they were opposed like they try and make us believe why not stand with us? Why not sign the petition? Why try and stop the Standish residents having their say? 

Here is a YouTube video with an update too.

So please keep visiting this blog and I will keep it updated.

Standish Voice founder Paul Ogden Come clean

Many residents will have seen articles and social media posts about a fence I put across some land I own. This includes the political motivated Standish Voice. Trust me Labour's trojan horse. But that is for another time and blog post. 

Standish Voice was set up by a guy called Paul Ogden that lives on Pepper Lane, the house next to the new link road entrance. In fact that is why he set it up to stop the road coming out at the side of his house and what he told me and others at the time effecting the value of his property and he wanted to stop the road coming out there. He had not objected to any of the 2,000 houses that got approved by the Tory Government and Labour Council. 

Back to my fence Paul Ogden used his little mouth piece Standish Voice to lie about me and peddle his hatred towards me and used the Wigan Today posts that ran an article about the fence issue. Given that I complained to Wigan Today and they did not want to issue an apology initially but I went external and then they kindly worked with me to resolve my complaint. Here is a link to that clarification and apology. I thank Wigan Today for that. 

Paul Ogden and Standish Voice have not set the record straight and apologised to me. Defamation action will be commencing shortly against him but who is this Paul Ogden and why will he not come clean with the residents of Standish? 

Here is a picture of his house before the developments started. 

Notice the extension on the left hand side of his property right on the boundary. This is important fact. That is where his land starts and ends on that side. 

Now look at it today

Notice how he has gained land at the side of his house, This is a wide driveway and gates at the left hand side of the house. When he got the land at the side of his house he got all the driveway and garden done as well. Neighbours tell me new kitchen and new car arrived at that time too. Interesting. this is the guy that said my little group aka standish Voice will stop developments. Has it? No, but he has done very well out of it. 

In a Facebook post I asked him how put as he financially made out of all of the developments in Standish? He refused and said on Facebook he would tell any one in Standish. I asked him as I am a resident and his response is - not telling you! Interesting he is hiding the figure.

So why doesn't he come clean and tell us all, inc me, how much he has gained financially? Maybe that would be a better use of his time rather than spreading hate fuelled libellous lies about me and my family.  

Ranting Ray told to shut up

 Standish Tory Cllr Ray Whittingham has been told to shut up by the Mayor of Wigan Council. Could it be described as an outreach by him in that singular issue? No. But when we look at the wider issues then you see why this is showing that he is losing it and as one Labour Cllr who told me about him and to watch the video you can see why they are all laughing at him.

When a Cllr myself I was never told to shut up by the mayor but if things where done wrong then I would regularly bring point of orders etc and use the correct procedure. But with Ranting Ray he has now been described and compared to Buffoon Bob Brierley, who regularly disrupts meetings - rightly or wrongly.

But what are the issues here? Well Tory Cllr Ray Whittingham  is wanting all Cllrs to have their votes recorded. This is often done to try and embarrass other Cllrs of other political persuasions. But again when I was a Cllr I would often ask for this but the rules are very clear - you need 9 other Cllrs to support your request. The Tory's even voted to have this as a requirement. So when we see Cllr Ray Whittingham ranting at does it matter not having 10? well yes because his party supported the requirement to have 10 Cllrs agree to this. So why is he ranting now after his lot agreed to this? Seems very odd.

As the Tories have had a beating in the polls and only have 2 Cllrs out of 75 and three other independent groups have 9 between them you can see that the Tories will be down to one Cllr next yr and the following local election they will be eradicated altogether in the council chamber. 

Have a look at ranting ray complain about does it matter, when his lot agreed to this requirement and then the Mayor letting him to shut up.  

The matter that was being discussed was to amend the constitution and Cllr Whittingham is the leader of the Conservatives on the Council and he was invited to the committee meeting to discuss the change even before it came to this full council meeting and he failed to turn up, put his comments into it and even send his apologies. What a joke, what a waste of space. Complaining of things he could have had spoken about and possibly change. This just evidences he is not bothered about trying to change things just rant at Council meetings.

Conservative Cllr Ray Whittingham AWOL

So a number of residents have contacted me about the waste of space Cllr Ray Whittingham. With the Cricket Club trying to sell some land for development to help save the club for a while and also help fund a new club house. On those two issues I will come back to that later.

Development an emotive issue and then add into the mix losing the cricket ground, or part off, then you can get residents up set at it. So they asked Conservative Cllr Ray Whittingham for a public meeting and his help as one of their local Cllrs. 

His response left residents speechless. I have seen the messages and I too cannot believe he has not even thought these thoughts but also can't believe he said it.

He has said he is not in charge and there is nothing he can do and not coming to a public meeting and nothing he can do. He also says he's only the messenger so basically shut up! Can you believe it? 

So he thinks that it is ok for him to collect his £14,000 a year Cllr's salary to be a messenger only and not help or represent residents. What a disgrace. 

I will help residents all I can and got some ideas and if Tory Cllr Ray Whittingham has gone AWOL on residents then I will be happy to help. 

Labour Party send candidate from Bryn

STANDISH RESIDENTS BEWARE OF LABOUR'S TRICK 

So with the local elections soon to get in full swing parties are choosing their candidates. This year you will have a chose of 3 candidates to choose as all 75 Cllrs are out and have to start again because the ward boundaries have been changed - due to Standish becoming so damn big with all the new houses the Labour control council and Tory Government have imposed on us. 

So labour cannot find 3 people in the ward or neighbouring wards and had to bring one of their councillors from Bryn as he is due to get kicked out spectacularly because the independents will win all three seats there as this lad as done nothing but take his money and run. he is over 12 miles away from Standish. What can he do? He has done nothing for Bryn as many residents say. One Bryn resident said, Good riddance to him, what a waste of space!" 

So who is he?

Sam Flemming a lad that goes to university, so not does he not live in Standish nor anywhere near here he is at Uni. In the past when Labour have done this kind of trick with a lad call Murphy ( can't remember his name) and a bloke from Beech Hill standish residents send a responding message to Labour - Get lost! 

Why are Labour doing this?

They believe the Tory's are so unpopular nationally they can parachute anyone one in with a red rosette in.

The Standish Independents will only field local candidates and you will not find us doing what Labour are doing bring someone in from bryn. what a disgrace and desperate state of affairs for Labour to have to do this.

Labour finally realise they have let children and residents down.

 Last week 2 cars where involved in an accident and one ended up in a front garden near to a primary school in Standish. Naturally, speed is presumed as ending up in a garden doesn't happen at low speeds. 

For years, Standish Independents have called for safety measures including a crossing at St Maries primary school. So not doing much the labour Cllr and the 2 other candidates have now started the despicable tactic of campaigning at a primary school gate 

The first thing myself and others thought of is safeguarding. I have asked the Labour Party if they do DRB checks on their candidates prior or at selection? I await their reply to date no response.

The thing is I am glad they no agree with us that there is an issue but here is the thing. Wigan Council is controlled by Labour so if a Labour Cllr for Standish can't simply ask for something and has to resort to things like us, the opposition, have to do it begs the question what are they doing? Do they have any say in their party? 

Also, when opposition Candidates, Cllrs and political parties do petitions Labour say they do not count. So If we go off what Labour say about petitions why is their Labour Cllr doing one? Political stunt to try and get re-elected just before the local elections? Seems to be the case to me. 

But the real, and to be fair the only question, is why has Labour allowed this position ro come about and will they put a safety measure in place?