Update on Steve Jones JR Case

The Royal Courts of Justice have now given Steve's case. They have now given it's a case number and also ask both parties if they are happy for the case to be heard in Manchester. Steve has agreed with the Courts to have this moved up to Manchester as this would make sense. We have therefore written to the courts with the agreement and also hope Wigan Council agree to this too.

Both Parties have now got 7 days to object to the move but Steve hopes that Wigan Council, like him  respond to the courts at the very earliest opportunity. That way it does not delay any hearing but also if heard in Manchester it will be a great chance for local people to attend the public gallery and hear the case.

As soon as all the details are agreed then we will update this blog so keep your eyes open. It is a shame that it has come to this but Wigan Council would not listen or even talk about it and thought that their bully boy tactics would win the day. Well we believe justice will won the day and we hope as many people can witness it as possible.

Time's up......took some time.....

So the Time up campaign, which is a campaign against all the sexual harassment in Hollywood. This is after a number of high profile men have been accused of using their power to get their own way with their sexual satisfaction. No body man or woman, show abuse their power to get the ro own way - including to get their rocks off.

I fully support this and agree with this but my issue is where have all these people been? I get that if you are a low profile person trying to break into the business then if you broke your silence you would not get a job in the industry. That has been accepted. So then all those people that would listen to them or give them a job or guilty by implication.

I recently saw Oprah doing a presidential speech saying this it the end no more etc etc. But here is, or was, the most powerful person in USA TV and if everyone knew about it she must have then she would have had the power to blow it open but didn't. So rather than trying to give a liberating speech on the issue she, and others should be saying sorry for not using their power to blow the lid on it.

But this campaign should not just be about Hollywood it should be about All work places and organisations.So let's all say well done to the real people that blew the lid and got their voices heard because had Hollywood and Howard's mates thrown him to the kerb a long time ago then there would be less victims.

The only person I think is remorseful from their actions is Howard's friend is  Quentin Tarantino who has said he is sorry he didn't speak out earlier. Where are others that need to say sorry - like the whole of Hollywood  if they knew about it.

Free Speech has disappeared in Wigan....

We all see and read stories in our media that North Korea and Russia silence the opposition in their countries and do not allow anyone to call them. We think we live in a free society in the UK but are our officials hypocrites ?

Yesterday (26/01/2018) at 10.40am Greater Manchester Police on the order of the Chief Executive of Wigan Council, Donna Hall, blow open his metal gate that protects his property. There was about a dozen police officers - I thought we were on cut backs with them. They were all tooled up in full combat gear like out of a hollywood film costing I hear over £10,000 to carry out this operation and then with battering rams forced entry into his house. Had they simply knocked he would have let them in but it is obvious that they wanted to do maximum damage.

He was arrested although was not read his rights and taken to Wigan Police station. There he was locked up for hours and then he was informed that Donna Hall, Chief Executive of Wigan Council had complained about him by posting a video that was freely online for all to see. This was from the estate agents that had sold her house. Also the fact that many residents complain about development in their neighbourhood - we have had a lot of that in Standish and Wigan council say tough. Well also he had shared her objection letters were she had complained about some development next to her house - welcome to what people of Standish have to put up with.

Also she complained that someone had parked a car outside her house watching her - Mr Peter Franzen - I believe he doesn't even have a car. Then she said her bins had been gone through and things photographed. Do we believe this? Absolutely not! And just to try and add a bit of spice she said her car tyres had been slashed on Wigan Council car park. This has CCTV all around it. So where is the CCTV that her car tyres were slashed? I doubt it even exists because it probably didn't happen. She is a notorious liar. Just look back when she claimed she was in a famous band until their manager had said he had not even heard of her. Also the Council have had to pay out ten's of thousands of pounds recently because she libelled ex Cllr Jim Ellis. She claimed she wasn't guilty. If that was true why did she not want to go to court and have a judge hear the trial?

So what is this all about? In recent weeks Donna Hall has had some criticism online about her. This ranges from her deal which gives hundreds of thousands of pounds to  Labour Cllr Charities and groups. There is even a path were some of this money ends up in her house by way the council give money to a group in Wigan where her boyfriend ( who lives with her)- Ex Labour Cllr Bretherton - is a director and then they buy services of him from his employer. No doubt any one who job is in sales will be given a bonus for hitting targets. So here we have a paper trail of this. That story is here.

The thing is it used to be arguments between Labour and opposition but then Wigan Council got  a bad reputation for it and then Labour Leader thought of a plan to use a woman - soft sod - to say to his Chief Executive Donna Hall do my dirty work for me then they fall out with you and that will make Labour look good and them bad. What a coward for using a woman in this way. The previous Chief Executive was a good Chief Executive and would not get involved in Labour's politics. She was a good strong leader who would stand strong against Labour Leader Bully Peter Smith. OK it cost her her job but she held firm and whilst I didn't always agree with her I fully respective her for being political neutral like all chief executives should be.

So free speech? Donna Hall has libelled may and done some dirty nasty things to people and when they have gone onto social media she doesn't like it. Well tough! If you are in a public office and put your head above the parapet and give it out you must have to learn to take it as well.

I do not believe for one minute that if the CPS (Crown Prosecution Service ) was handed the case they would take it on and therefore what on earth are the police doing running around doing her favours for her? They too should be neutral. No doubt this free speech that I am writing here will get her private police ( as she treats them that way) give no doubt get my door blown off by the cops but what is important whilst hatred and violence speech is not allowed then free speech is allowed in our society. after all that is what our grand parents fought for in the world wars.


For the record Mr Peter Franzen was not charged after all that and also Greater Manchester Police where given an opportunity to add a comment for this blog - no comment came back.

Judicial Review in against Wigan Council

Cllr Steve Jones was sacked by Wigan Council. I say sacked because it is clear in an audit-able trail that he said he intended to resign in Late February. The Council accepted this. The council also knew he suffered from depression and they got him in a  room on his own in a vulnerable state of mind and bullied him into saying that he would do it but also that he would put in on his Facebook page.

When people asked what was going on and thr truth came out residents and friends came out to support him and say he should resign at the end of Feb 2018. He agreed and said to the council they  that he would not be doing his resignation at the end of February 2018.

Labour and heir Chief Executive were furious and simply said o well we have taken it as you have resigned. Don't like it - take us to court !

Taking someone to the High Courts for a Judicial Review is not a simply or cheap process. Wigan Council know this so therefore saying by implication that only the rich can have justice or democracy in Wigan. This is wrong!

With that in mind and after getting a leading solicitors view on the case in which he said we had an extremely strong case Cllr Steve Jones has now submitted an application into the High Courts of London and asking for a Judicial review and ask the courts to decide if he or Wigan Council are correct.

With Wigan council also calling a by election Cllr Steve Jones as putting in an application of urgency to have the court hear his case ASAP. This will be up to the courts to decide both.

Finally one of the other things that Cllr Steve Jones has asked for is for the Bryn by-election to be halted until his case is heard. Again this will be up to the courts..

I am helping Cllr Steve Jones in this case as he does suffer from Depression and we don't want his condition to worsen so we are here to support him, just like many of you are too - which is great and much appreciated.

Keep watching here for the news on this case first.

Wigan Council Leader calls me for my sad loss

I know and fully understand that politics is a dirty business. I also know that I challenge the Council on their corruption. However, where I draw the line is at Cllr Peter Smith, labour Leader since the early nineties. A man who was in charge of the Council when he was being told about kids in Wigan Care being abused. What did he do ? Nothing ! Allow it to continue and more children to become victims of these vile crimes, so far one person is going to trail soon.

But I absolutely draw the line when he takes to his social media and calls me for my recent sad loss of losing my mum. At what levels does this evil vile man get off? Am I over my loss with losing mum? Absolutely not! Will I ever be?  Probably not because anyone who has lost a parent that they are close to will know it is hard and I don't mind saying I miss her but I am not going to belittled, or called for it by this disgusting excuse of man called smithy. He has taken his new lows to an all time low from the gutter to the sewers. Mind you that where he belongs with the rest of the rats.

I hear he was upset at an open letter that I sent him asking him, here is a copy of that letter.

I was probably not going to stand in May's Election but you bet I will be now. For my mum, for all our mums and for us and against this evil man that needs throwing in jail for allowing kids that should have been looked after in Wigan's Council Care but instead they were abused like you can't imagine - all under his watch and he knew about it and did nothing. Now the law suits are coming. In the very near future in courts of law some very disgusting things are going to be told what happened unless Wigan Council get their way of out of court settlements. That way they can try and hide these disgusting crimes.

Politics may be a dirty game but when someone makes fun at someones losing a loved one - especially their mum - then I am not standing for that - and nor would anyone else.!

Wigan Taxpayers are going to be hit with an Andy Burnham Tax in April

Back in 2014 the people of Greater Manchester were asked if they wanted to have an elected Mayor. The result was a firm NO! Labour leaders across Greater Manchester welcomed this. However, the two main parties said why should we listen to the people. We don't normally.

So the then Chancellor George Osbourne and the Labour Leaders of Greater Manchester did a deal against people's wishes and did a devo manc deal where labour would run health services directly in the area and we would get a directly elected Mayor that no one wanted.

When the Mayor elections were held Labour's candidate Andy Burnham won the vote with less than a third of people voting. Why so low? Because no one wanted the position in the first place and secondly hardly anyone could understand what they actually did.

Now it has come to light that in April in your Council tax will be an added £10 to pay for Andy Burnham's office. This is will raise £2-£3 million but no one wanted the Mayor in the first place now we are being forced to pay more tax. It had been mooted that Andy Burnham wanted to charge £20- £30 per household but Labour Leaders thought this was a bad idea. Probably because it would hit them hard in the Local Elections. So a lower figure of £10 seems likely however no final figure has been agreed yet.

Council gagging order leaves Wigan Council open to Corruption charge

So many people on this site which is growing by the 000's every month so thank you and welcome to all the new views.

This month looks like the biggest month ever. The record so far is 10,000 hits for a single month. With the hits nearing that already on that it is a sure thing that record will be broken. So thank you.

One reason why people like this blog is I expose the illegal and corrupt practises and issues at Wigan Council and now it seems others are following too, including BBC Radio 5 Live who have revealed that Councils in the UK have paid out £226.7 million in gagging orders. These are where Councils pay ex-employees to keep their gobs shut. So in the case of Wigan Council we all say the programme don't blame the council where it was blatant that Wigan Council took the Michael - I wanted a swear word here- and they got a way with it. We had people falling a sleep on the job filmed. People going home at 2pm and coming back in at 4pm just to clock off. These people were not sacked. We saw the Director of some dept Terry Dunn ripping up lawns on a mower prating around. He was sacked but to keep his gob shut he was paid nearly a million quid. Wow!!!! I hear also that the Council wanted to pay less but he said he knew all the skeletons - and he did too - he was right. So they paid him.

We had the bully Linda Fisher whos was paid 000,000's and was again given a gagging order.

There are others that I could mention but the point of the matter is there should not be gagging orders. If someone leaves a council or other employment for that matter if they see something wrong they should be able to report it. Obviously we have people misusing their powers - there are loads of them at Wigan Council - inc Chief executive Donna Hall - but if someone wanted to leave and report it the council just pay them off to keep their gob shut. Whilst that might be very nice for people like Donna Hall and others that mis-use their powers on a daily basis but in the end we will get to the point where it all comes out in years.

In the 90's we had had the situation where children where abused in the care of Wigan Council and the Leader knew about it as it was being reported. But again it's all kept quiet. Recently I asked under FOI for all the memos, letters and other reports to him about the matter. Council response we will not deny or accept they exist. 100% guarantee that he knew why? Because if he didn't know they would release all the details but they won't. Plus after a committee meeting a senior officer agreed to meet me out of the way who gave me all the details and confirmation that the Leader knew. So why didn't he do nothing? The Council also say they cannot comment as there is a legal investigation going on at the minute. But there is people now got papers in court to sue Wigan Council for the abuse they received. What will Wigan council say at the hearings, "Sorry judge we are not talking about it or denying it because there is a legal case is ongoing." They will get the book thrown at them but they won't care because it is not their money that will pay them - it is yours!

The Government should now null and void all gagging orders with regards Council and if their were brave employers too and get all the bad stuff out there what is happening!

Open Letter to Cllr Peter Smith

Dear Peter,

I am writing to you on the issue of your Chief Executive illegally sacking him. As you are aware he now has legal opinion and advice on the matter from leading solicitor Piers Coleman.

You have been in the local press saying that Cllr Steve Jones should just give up as he is no role model to be a Cllr. I would like to ask this who are you to judge? Surely that is for the people of Bryn.

How good is your judge of character? You had Cllr Joe Shaw, who was convicted of down loading child porn and having a gun and ammo and sent to jail. Next you had Emma McGurrin who was convicted of benefit fraud and sent to jail. There is a theme appearing here. Next we have a Number of Labour Cllr who were not sacked like Cllr Winkworth  ( the public will guess what she was called in the council chamber :-) ) and Cllr Bourne  - known in the chamber as Cllr porn as they both had been found guilty of breaking Council policy and using council equipment for downloading porn.

We also have in Bryn a Labour Cllr Rampling who son has been sent to jail for raping a 4 yr old. Here is that story. What great role models you have. I am pretty sure if you continue on course of this "illegal" by election the people of Bryn will be reading about this.

Hang on we have your another mate too - Dorothy Abbott who you employed in the Council and what was her role in the council? Advising staff on what benefits they were allowed. What did she go and do? O yes steal off tax payers by way of benefit fraud. Story here. Nearly £30,000 she stole off the people of Wigan. What a great circle of friends you have.

And what about you? How good are you? That's right you were leader in 1992 when all the child abuse scandals where going on in Wigan Council children's home and what did you do to protect them? NOTHING! Shame on you !

I would therefore take a good long hard at yourself in the Mirror and ask am i really qualified for calling people? 

Leading Solicitor gives legal opinion on illegal sacking

So as many readers will know from this site and others, the Chief Executive of Wigan Council has illegally sacked a Cllr.

After looking over the matter one of Britain's leading solicitor has given his initial findings into the matter. The initial findings are below

Responding to the case Piers said,

If one believes the spokesman, Steve Jones was no longer a Councillor with effect from 5 January and therefore instantly not entitled to vote. However, considering that the intended resignation was only said to be effective on 20 February, that then calls into the question the validity of any votes in the intervening period, or indeed whether he will now be allowed to vote at all.

Piers said,

It seems probable to me that in this case the Council have been premature. We can applaud their enthusiasm and their responsiveness in their desire to fill the expected vacancy as quickly as possible, but it seems probable that they were over-enthusiastic.Does "I will be resigning" mean "I resign". This must be questionable and it must be possible that Steve Jones would (as indeed he did) change his mind.Google again reports a spokesman for the Council, and the spokesman's words are taken from one of the leading text books on the subject. He does not deal with the difference in dates between 5 January and 20 February.

Piers added

the council have merely copied and pasted a section out of the leading text book but they have not looked at the correct section as this section is about immediate resignation and not intended resignations.

We have also have had written from the independent group of the Local Government Association who also confirm that in their view the resignation didn't happen and he is still a Cllr.

Following these fantastic top legal views Cllr Steve Jones put out this statement tonight," Whilst it may have been daft of me to pre-ept what I may do in 6 weeks times it is now clear that what Wigan Council are doing is illegal and wrong! It is absolutely clear that I am the Cllr for Bryn and no matter what Wigan Council say they are wrong. This is not only my view but now but a leading solicitor . It is also clear that they are trying to rush this illegal by-election through asap to try and cut down the time limit I have to challenge them in the courts. That is not my concern. If any Cllrs resigns at this time then it would be better for the taxpyers in terms of cost and time to have 2 elections on one day. But Labour want to see if they can win in Bryn. Regardless of this I am the legal Cllr for Bryn and residents should come to me with issue. On the matter of residents coming to me i would like to once again thank all the many residents across the borough of taking time to contact me with their support. "

With regards Mr Piers Coleman's ability to deal he believe he is because Piers Coleman, a partner in the London office of K&L Gates, acted for Liberal Democrat candidate Elwyn Watkins in the first case of its kind in 99 years to be held in a specially-convened parliamentary election court, which resulted in a by-election being held on January 13 in Oldham East and Saddleworth. This is a case where by he was able to get a Labour MP kicked out of office and trigger a by election as they had broken the law. The first case in 99 years. Those kind of cases are hard to fight and to win demonstrates his ability to take on such a case. 

Wigan Council illegally sack a Cllr

It's January and you can tell it's Panto time.

So there one of the opposition Cllr who challenges this Labour Council and their Chief Executive ( yet another illegal post - a Chief Executive cannot be Chief Executive of a political party but this CE doesn't seem to mind that she breaks a few laws and lies through her teeth too)

However, Steve Jones an Independent Cllr for Bryn Ward,who suffers from depression at present and is on medication for this - and the council know this had a personal matter that worsened his depression. The Council got him in and said, "resign, go on you can do it." But he had been named and shamed by the Council for recently owing them money and he said I can't till I pay all the money back to you guys. Council is now in a fix. If he resigns then this would be the case. Scratching their heads the head of Legal Services Brendan Whitworth and Head of democratic service Christine Jones, say, "I know we have a plan quit on the 20th Feb?"

"Why then?"
"Well that is when the debt will be paid off. "

So under pressure by way of if he didn't resign their would go on and create more stress for him by leaking false news to the press. So he said I will resign on the 20th Feb then. Off he goes and the Council staff are jumping for joy, Yeah we can get a bonus now and we can hopefully get another Labour puppet in who does as they are told and not challenge us.

So the Council officers told him for them to keep the deal he had to announce his intention ( note this word )  on his Facebook Page. And so he does - what an idiot!

After getting back on his medication and back with his partner who he lives with they say what just happened. His constituents get in  touch and say don't do it and you will be missed. So he decides he will not carry out his intention of resigning as agreed on the 20th Feb especially as the council are leaking false stories left right and centre. Now you can see it the Council officers are getting mad their plan has back fired. Damn damn and more damn we are going to have to tell the wicked witch of Wigan - Donna Hall Chief Executive. Typical bad witch style she jumps on the email and says tough you have resign and I am saying that's it -get over it! O no it isn't!

When you look at the email trail, which this blog has, then it is clear that the Council knew he had not resigned and it was ONLY his intention. and the head of legal services had confirmed this in an email. But he can't tell the wicked witch of Wigan other wise he too might get the sack - just like the last head of Legal Services. Also the Council even confirmed to the paper that the Cllr was resigning on the 20th. The Council only said he has gone now once he had informed them that he was not going to stand down on the 20th January 2018.

So the fun and games will go on and it will be interesting - will the wicked witch get her wish.? O will there be a fairy godmother out there?

You Couldn't make this up

So with the recent weather and storms a very large tree has fallen at Haigh Park. Wigan Council have put the picture below out showing people looking at it. Yep big tree OK lads stop looking at it and get cutting.

But in true Don't Blame the Council ( remember that TV programme ) Wigan Council lads look at it scratch their heads. and say, "what happens here?"

Answer from colleague - keep you gob shut and we can drag this gig out for a week. Then we bum around and then come back in a week and cut it up!

Yes it#s a big tree go and get that chain saw out the back of you van and  cut it up! But no Wigan Council do nothing for a week. Mind you with the popularity of wood burners maybe Wigan council are hoping people just come and take their own wood. That way they don't have to do anything in a week.

Leader removes Cllr from group

It is with regret that yesterday the Wigan Independents Political Group Leader on Wigan Council asked independent Cllr for Bryn Ste Jones to leave the Wigan Independent group. He informed us that he would sit on the council as a sole independent but has since decided to resign. We wish him well in the future whatever he does.

Crisps test - bit of fun but results are interesting

So we hear a lot about the excessive use of plastic and how it is bad for the environment. Then you look at what you are buying and in terms of crisps in some cases you are buying bags of air. Pretty expensive if you have me.

So here is a test I did to see if the weights of crisps were correct and how much excessive packaging they used.

So see which crisps fail the test and which use too much packaging and create more waste.